In this episode, Bailey talks with Cayla Brewton, a Mindrise coach, motivational speaker, and lightworker. They talk about the tools you can use to realize that you don’t always have to give up something to fulfill your purpose and the importance of having a this AND that lifestyle.


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There is a widespread belief in society that you can only excel at something if you quit everything else and sacrifice part of what you want. However, once you do the inner work and realize your true potential, you will be able to switch from a this OR that mindset to a this AND that mindset. It’s not easy, but as long as it’s aligned to who you are and what you want, you will be on the right path towards fulfilling your purpose.


Bailey and Cayla talk about the different tools and strategies you can use to embody a “this and that” lifestyle. It all starts with looking inwards and accepting that you deserve more. Only by understanding who you are becoming and who you want to become will you be able to get there. They also talk about the importance of enjoying the present while you strive towards the future and that balance, as always, is the key to a purposeful life.

Key Takeaways

  • You don’t always have to choose between two things you want to do and sacrifice one of them.
  • You have to realize that you are deserving of having everything you want to be able to lead a this and that life.
  • Tuning in with yourself is what will allow you to break with the preconceptions and limiting beliefs you might have.
  • “If I stay present here I’ll get to be where I want to be in the future.”
  • You need to ask yourself questions about who you are and who you are becoming in order to grow.
  • It’s not about doing this and that because you don’t want to miss out but because both things are aligned with who you are.
  • Only when you identify the story you’ve been telling yourself about your life can you change it and live the story that truly is for you.

In this episode we covered:

  • (00:00) Welcome to Cayla Brewton to The Mindrise Podcast.
  • (02:25) Living a this AND that life and feeling fulfilled. 
  • (07:16) Finding balance and creating new ideas to be able to combine both this and that. 
  • (09:36) The inner work required to live a this and that life.
  • (12:28) Growing and accepting that you can get what you want might not be easy, but it should always be aligned with who you are.
  • (17:33) The importance of asking yourself if you are where you need to be while you strive towards the other things you want. 
  • (21:00) The first step is identifying who you are becoming, and what does this and that mean for you. 
  • (24:42) The illusion of safety that is provided by choosing just one thing and devoting yourself to it instead of listening to your body and your inner voice.
  • (32:31) Practical exercise to embody your this and that lifestyle.
  • (34:19) Breaking with the false story you are telling yourself and finding the real story of your life.


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